FILE - This Jan. 7, 2017 file photo shows director Ava DuVernay at the 2017 Film Independent Filmmaker Grant and Spirit Award Nominees Brunch in West Hollywood, Calif. DuVernay talked about Donald Trump, race and change as she discussed her new Netflix documentary, `13th,’ with Oprah Winfrey and political commentator Van Jones on Sunday, Jan. 15. (Photo by Willy Sanjuan/Invision/AP, File)
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