FILE - In this Nov. 2, 2018 photo Vince Kadlubek, co-founder and board member of the offbeat arts and entertainment startup company Meow Wolf, speaks at a Democratic political rally at a Meow Wolf venue in Santa Fe, N.M. After the Great Recession pummeled the economy in 2008-2009, venture investment in New Mexico ground to a near halt as struggling venture-backed startups crashed and burned and investors hunkered down to await better times. Startups hope support systems today prevent this. (AP Photo/Morgan Lee, File)
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